Reactions to story from The Register: Sci/Tech News for the World
Research: Wind power pricier, emits more CO2 than thought
http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2008/ 07/ 03/ wind_power...
Research: Wind power pricier, emits more CO2 than thought 'Windfarm output is never zero. Sometimes it's less'
Reactions / posts that link to this post
View all reactions »-
Just Another Wild Swing
http://thelearningcurve.blogspot.com/2008/10/just-another-wi...I'm amazed at the market volatility with each passing minute. Go to the bathroom, come back, and there's 300 point swing. At least. If you want to play along at home, you might as well move your trading office into the bathroom. Or put plumbing in your trading office. Can't afford to miss a tick."Is that a new porcelain office chair, Muck?"As I mentioned, it seems rather easy to play. Down big? Go long. Get out after the mega-bounce. And vice-versa if up big. Buy an inverse fund, and cash out after the mega-fade.Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Get rich.I'll link to Adam Warner on this one about Fox going with negative ads on Jim Cramer. I think Cramer is just entertainment, but pity the person trying to "play along at home." Adam gives the h/t to Michael Parekh; so, I will, too.I didn't watch the debate last night, but feel that I've seen enough clips and commentary to understand what went on. McCain probably seemed a bit old and angry. "My friends..." Obama probably dodged all the questions and was very non-specific with his answers. "Er, uh, look.." The usual. Right?Who is Joe the Plumber?A lot on energy the last few debates. Nuclear is really the answer, but it's not the politically correct answer.Why wind power won't work.BYU - TCU tonight! Set the DVR!
-
Vindkraft som ruinerandes livsmiljö
http://klimathot-gameover.blogspot.com/2008/07/vindkraft-som...Fick syn på en artikel om en undersökning som visar att vindkraftens påverkan på människor hälsa för dem boendes inom knappt 2 kilometers radie från snurrorna är ganska stor. Först diverse notiser: --- Maud Olofsson och centerpartiet driver ju på för en mindre gedigen miljöprövning vid anläggning av vindkraftsverk, i något de kallar "Gräddfil för vindkraften". --- De stängda Barsebäcksverken motsvarade ej uppgraderade ungefär lika mycket energi som vi enligt regeringens planer kommer att få från vindkraft år 2015, där över 1000 vindkraftsverk behöver uppföras och omöjliggöra boende och långtidsvistelse på grovt överslagsräknat någon kvarts miljon hektar mark. --- Reutersartikel om ett mycket stort strömavbrott i Texas, bl a beroende på överraskande stiltje. --- Vindkraft är inte heller billig i jämförelse med kärnkraft. Kärnkraft levererar i dag med lönsamhet och utan bidrag, medan vindkraft är mycket kraftigt subventionerad (100% i UK). En utredande rapport om det här, med för nästan 10 år sedan denna produktionskostnadstäckning (s.48): Försäljningspris 11–13 öre Statligt tillägg 9 öre Miljöbonus 16,2 öre Investeringsbidrag 3–5 öre --- I Sverige finns Föreningen Svenskt Landskapsskydd. Nåväl! Telegraph-artikeln: "The majority of people living near wind turbines believe that the noise they make is ruining their health and quality of life, a report has revealed. Neighbours also claim that the constant hum and the loud "whooshing" sound made by the blades in high winds is destroying the value of their homes. A survey of people whose homes are situated within 1.2 miles of turbines has shown that three-quarters of them feel that the noise has damaged their quality of life while four out of five say it has affected their health. Those who said they were made ill by the sound of the wind farms, which are designed to benefit the environment, described conditions ranging from migraines and palpitations to depression. Three quarters said their sleep was disturbed by the noise and some claimed that they had been forced to stay in bed and breakfasts to get a proper night's rest or to sell their homes at reduced prices to get away from the area. ..." 3 av 4 anser alltså vindkraftsverken förstört deras livskvalitet och 4 av 5 att de har påverkat deras hälsa, men Storbritannien har sitt centerparti: "But a spokesman for the British Wind Energy Association said it was just a "myth" that turbines were noisy. She said: "We are aware that people have concerns but we are not aware of any evidence that supports their claims. "The unfortunate thing about noise is that it can be a subjective perception. Some people can be more sensitive than others." The Government commissioned a report into claims that the low-frequency noise emitted by wind turbine generators was affecting people's health but it found last year that there was "no evidence" of ill-effects." Hela artikeln. (Hat Tip: Climate Change Fraud.) Några vindkrafts-artiklar de senaste månaderna: * Daily Mail: "Research: Wind turbines are 'unreliable and will cost each home £4,000' claims think-tank" * The Telegraph har bl a länk till nämnda studie. * The Register: "Wind power pricier, emits more CO2 than thought" * Ruth Lea förklarar varför brittisk vindkraft är "Absurd and Costly". * Christopher Booker i The Telegraph: "Wind power comes to my back yard" * MaxedOutMama: "The Problems With On-Grid Wind Power" * EU Referendum: "Trouble at t'grid" * EU Referendum: "A question of subsidy" * EU Referendum: "The madness exposed" * D. Lawson i The Independent: "The staggering cost of renewable energy" * Iain Murray på OpenMarkets :"The Windy Denmark Question" * BBC om nedlagt skotskt projekt: "'Largest' wind farm plan rejected" * Dr John Etherington (2006): "Wind power subsidy in the UK" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Twingly-länkar: * SvD Brännpunkt, där LO, Pappers och Svenskt Näringsliv bemöter vänsterpartist. * DN-artikel om flytande vindkraftsverk, sannolikt med gängse kraftiga subventioner. * Advokatfirman Lindahl av någon anledning i Sydsvenskan om "att den rättsliga process som föregår uppförandet av vindkraftverk förenklas". Låter ju fint, men vems rätt minskar vid en "förenkling"? Andra bloggar om: samhälle, politik, energi, miljö, miljöpolitik, klimatpolitik, vindkraft, centerpartiet, vindkraft
-
Is UK Wind Power the Best Bet for Investors?
http://blogs.bnet.co.uk/sterling-performance/2008/07/10/is-u...Is UK Wind Power the Best Bet for Investors? By Joanna Higgins July 10th, 2008 @ 11:48 am 0 Comments | Permalink Email Share My BNET StumbleUpon Newsvine del.icio.us Google Digg Technorati Reddit My Yahoo Facebook Print Recomend 0 Categories: News Tags: Turbine, U.K., Investor, Wind Energy, Telecom & Utilities, Joanna Higgins As the G8 leaders thrash out new targets for national energy consumption, a report by consultancy Pricewaterhouse Coopers reminded leaders of the need for “bold, early action”. And investors such as the perfectly named oil tycoon T Boone Pickens in the US, and Blackstone in Europe, are taking note, pouring billions into highly ambitious windpower projects. The British Wind Energy Association was delighted by the Renewable Energy Strategy, which aims to source 15 per cent of UK energy from renewables by 2020 and which could create a raft of ‘green-collar’ jobs in manufacturing. It is pinning a lot of hope onto wind power. But UK prospects have been dealt a blow (sorry) by a paper written up by the Register. Former Rolls Royce engineer Jim Oswald has written an article that asks: ‘Will British Weather Provide Reliable Electricity?’, to which the answer is probably, no — unless consumers want to start paying even more for their utilities. Surprising as it may seem, the UK has regular five-day calms and occasional 10-day ‘low wind cold snaps’ that mean the electricity output of wind farms can sometimes drop below zero, according to Oswald. Gas turbines would be needed to help deal with the stop-start surges in supply and demand. And the volatile demand on them would mean the turbines used would need to be cheap and resilient — and probably heavy carbon emitters, as a result. It’s a worry if we are pouring money into the wrong renewable — wind power is comparatively cheap now, but solar and tidal projects may prove more sustainable in the long term. It would also be a shame if the RES — which received a cautious thumbs up from business-aware Jonathon Porritt — were discredited as a result. It’s still in consultation — so you can have your say.
-
The Devil is in the Details
http://blog.acton.org/archives/2392-The-Devil-is-in-the-Deta...Research: Wind power pricier, emits more CO2 than thought.
-
links for 2008-07-04
http://dwightk.com/2008/07/links-for-2008-07-04/links for 2008-07-04 July 4, 2008 – 12:34 am Research: Wind power pricier, emits more CO2 than thought | The Register Hidden costs of wind power (tags: article energy economics)
-
Reliance On Wind Power Is Full Of Hot Air
http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/2388-Reliance-On-Wind-Po...The UK has recently enacted a resolution to create a 25+ gigawatt wind farm by 2020. They then asked for research to show how great this will be. Why? Because they want the UK residents and the EU to pay for it. Building a 25+ gigawatt wind farm is not cheap. And imagine the cost of building these wind farms all over Britain's landscape. Where are they going to build them if not in someone's back yard? However, research is coming in that will wholly embarrasses the UK greenies and elitists. They had Jim Oswald, a turbines expert who was actually funded by the Renewable Energy Foundation (hint: not big oil) conduct a study on the variability of the winds over UK. Using government data, this is what his analysis found: Analysis from 1996 to 2005 shows similar results: large, rapid, and frequent changes of power output being common occurrences ... any national power system has to manage under the worst case conditions likely to occur ... These are not extreme cases, whose frequency is so low as to render the events negligible. Rather, these are representative ... Thus, variability rules the norm in UK. He even mentions that there are many times when the winds are so calm as to even create negative power flows. Some turbine-loving greenies tout pumped fluid storage as a way to bridge the gap. He slams those ideas as overly costly and burdensome. According to the site's environmental reporter: In his view, all this means that - certainly in a 2020 timeframe - the only feasible backup for the planned 25-gig wind base will be good old gas turbines. These would have to be built even if pumped storage existed, to deal with long-duration calms; and the expense of a triplefold wind, gas and pumped storage solution would be ridiculous. At present, gas turbine installations provide much of the grid's ability to deal with demand changes through the day. The trouble is, according to Oswald, that human demand variance is predictable and smooth compared to wind output variance. Coping with the sudden ups and downs of wind is going to mean a lot more gas turbines - ones which will be thrashed especially hard as wind output surges up and down, and which will be fired up for less of the time. Thus, he explains that due to the variability in wind and power requirements, gas turbine electrical generators will need to be built to smooth out that variability. As gas generators are used these days for peak power usage, when a nation begins to rely more on wind as their source of power, the variability will increase. More generators will be needed to compensate for that increased variability. The reporter continues after the fold. Continue reading "Reliance On Wind Power Is Full Of Hot Air"
